RichardLess wrote: ↑February 2nd, 2022, 4:46 am Now. That being said. There’s also William Forsche. That dude seems to have a black & white workprint of GB2.
That particular tape is just individual scenes, not a complete workprint. I have Tim Lawrence’s copy of the same tape. Remember the BTS footage of Ivan and Bill at ILM going over Slimer scenes? This tape was dubbed from that Moviola (the big edit machine they were using).
However, there definitely was a test screening workprint of GB2. I'm not sure if a VHS exists. I would be shocked if it didn't. After seeing the GB1 rough cut, I’m jonesing hard for it.
I’m dancing around some stuff here. For the record, I’m not spilling anything from the Too Hot doc. Whatever I post here is from my own personal research/collection.
RichardLess wrote: ↑February 2nd, 2022, 4:46 am I don’t think they are holding anything back, the more I think about it. It just doesn’t make sense.
D Osborn might also know. He’s working on the GB2 documentary and might know when this stuff was found, or if certain stuff is for sure lost. He’s mentioned some big surprises on the documentary but whether or not that’s deleted scene related I’m not sure.
I’m familiar with where the material came from, but it’s not my story to tell.
I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that things are being held back to make future releases have some splash. The missing GB2 scenes seem rather 1A-focused, don’t you think? Considering Jason’s comments when asked about the 1A, perhaps there’s a little correlation? Will the Afterlife sequel have a meta connection to GB2? Are they holding back stuff for the eventual NEW Ultimate Box Set?
Personally, I’m totally cool with that. Getting everything at once would be cool, but I love the anticipation. The conversation. The mysteries. The new box set answered a lot of things, but also created new questions! Having a white whale is a gas.
mrmichaelt wrote: ↑February 2nd, 2022, 5:41 am I can verify this. After a month and change, around January 17, 2019, Paul contacted by me about what unreleased content he'd hypothetically like to see be released for the 35th anniversary. I'm fairly sure they were asking webmasters of fan sites that they had contact info of. Myself and Devilmanozzy helped him compile a list.
We should compare notes! I sent a similar list to Ghost Corps around 2015-2016, when the Cleanin’ doc was still potentially going to bear the Sony logo. I need to dig it out. Personally, the Aykroyd pitch material is my big missing piece. The script, the Daveikis art, more of Dan’s sketches, and Dan’s self-produced video. I also remember asking about photos from June 83 in Martha’s Vineyard. Obvious stuff, of course— deleted scenes, dailies, raw footage of what’s used in the 1984 promos. Stream/trapping tests would be great to see.
What really gets my imagination going is thinking about what we don’t know about.
mrmichaelt wrote: ↑February 2nd, 2022, 5:41 am I would guess this stuff came from the Kansas salt mine where Sony kept stuff preserved. But as they've hinted, back then in the 80s, they weren't thinking of archival (and probably organizing) so finding it was like a bit of Indiana Jones and the time between the 35th anniversary steelbook and this set was probably how much more stuff they found from that mine that still had to be processed.
I don’t think it was a matter of the material not being processed. Scanning 35mm is pretty easy and standard. Perhaps they were instructed to only pull and scan certain bits. It seems to me like it would be easier and faster to have all of the elements scanned, them sort through on a hard drive. It’s a professional production— there are slates, there are schedules, scripts, and call sheets. They know what’s what.
I’m still making my way through the box set, so my thoughts may change on this. The raw dailies are super nice scans of the original camera elements stored in the salt mines), this has been explained by Jason. I think the deleted scenes (in edited form) were likely physically cut from the workprint in 1983 by Sheldon Kahn. Remember the Fort Detmerring and Honeymooners reel boxes that Ghost Corps shared? They’re not nearly large enough to be full reels. The physical film used in the edit process isn’t the original camera elements. It’s duplicated, so the raw film isn’t damaged in the process. A nice 35mm film presentation is gorgeous and clean. Celluloid is handled in the edit process, cut, taped, draped over shoulders, clipped to a board—giving the material dirt, funky color, pops and ticks and other film artifacts. However, this stuff is all 35mm scanned at 4K, so it looks INCREDIBLE.
mrmichaelt wrote: ↑February 3rd, 2022, 12:23 am They are my scans of my first copy of the book that I gave to Paul Rudoff for his free PDF of the book on Spook Central. For whatever reason, Sony wanted my raw scans, not the final cleaned up version that Devilmanozzy painstakingly did for Paul's PDF. Shrug.
That’s awesome it’s from your copy! I grabbed my reprint to look at a few things, and holy hell— that last page thanking you and Paul is insanely cool. You must be very proud! Congrats!
The reprint came out beautifully. Better than I was expecting. A lot of things that have been scanned and reprinted from Making GB generally turns out pretty poor, imo. The photos and illustrations are here simply gorgeous here. The text is easy to read. The paper quality is awesome. Nice binding. It's like we're in a magical GB DREAM LAND or something.