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Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 15th, 2009, 10:32 pm
by kind2311
I completed this daunting task yesterday afternoon and the results are outstanding. I was fortunate enough to have gotten some angle (L) brackets from fellow member Hooker and they turned out to be perfect. What hook did was get a long piece of 2" x 2" x 1/4" thick aluminum angle bracket and cut it into 2 inch sections. The bracket can be found at home improvement stores as well as purchased on ebay. Many sellers will even cut the bracket into pieces of your specified width, free of charge.

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The first thing I did was measure the thickness of the pack wall at each mounting point then place the bracket on the motherboard accordingly, allowing a 1/4" play or so just to be safe, then mark the outline on the motherboard. Then, one by one, taping down the brackets and test fitting, and re-test fitting the shell on the board until the placement of the bracket seems close enough. It should be said that the the bracket doesn't have to sit right up against the inside wall of the pack so don't stress if it's slightly off.
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After you get all the brackets placed, clamp them down and drill 2 holes into each bracket, going all the way through the bracket and motherboard. Then either use the appropriate size screws and bolt the bracket to the board or for GB1 accuracy, use 3/16" large flange(head) rivets like I did.
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once all the brackets are securely attached to the motherboard, place the shell on the board and make the proper adjustments until its centered to your satisfaction. Now, get a #7 drill bit and drill right through the side of the pack and into the L-bracket, making sure to go all the way through the bracket leaving a small clean hole.
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Now, with the pack shell still on, insert a 1/4-20 tap through the hole in the side of the shell and carefully cut threads into the L-bracket, keeping the tap as straight as you can. You wont be able to see the actual bracket while you're tapping it but this is okay because when you tap with the shell on, the insertion angle created by the hole in the pack will create threads in the bracket at an ideal angle to insert the bolt you will be using to secure the pack to the bracket.
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Here's what you are doing:
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after tapping, insert a 1/4-20 socket head cap screw or button head cap screw(Socket head cap screw for GB1 accuracy, Button head cap screw for GB2) and tighten to a loose thumb tight. Then drill and tap the rest of the brackets in the same manner. Be sure to consult the great reference section here for bracket/screw placement before drilling!
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Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 15th, 2009, 10:43 pm
by UltimateGBfan
Very awesome kind,thanks for posting this for those that need help on the mounting of a shell to a mobo.

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 15th, 2009, 11:57 pm
by WillRandal215
Damn Vinny, I didn't know you got down like this. Thats sick!

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 16th, 2009, 12:27 am
by Ryusui
Great tutorial! Thanks for the help!

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 16th, 2009, 3:26 am
by Charlie Richter
I was only wondering tis the other day. Good work Vince.

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 16th, 2009, 3:27 am
by Bob Wobbaz
This one of those things that i've been racking my brain over since beginning my build, thanks a lot. Would this method work well with wooden packs?

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 16th, 2009, 9:14 am
by ThrowingChicken
Nice! I used wood blocks to mount mine in a similar manner, but instead of having the screws along the outside of the pack be visible I sunk them below the surface and filled them over.

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 17th, 2009, 8:51 pm
by staticbuster
if this isn't already done, you should post this into the tutorial section. great job documenting & explaining the process.

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 18th, 2009, 5:30 pm
by RoboProp
Agreed!

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 18th, 2009, 5:49 pm
by irricanian
What hook did was get an 1/8"x3/4"x8ft. piece of aluminum angle bracket and cut it into 2 inch sections. The bracket can be found at Lowe's
Isn't the bracket 1/8" x 2" x 2" cut at 2" wide? The one in your first picture looks bigger than 3/4"

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 18th, 2009, 10:22 pm
by pchrisbosh1
Hey Kind your tutorial is awesome!

Question though what size rivets did you use for the assembly? I found some rivets that are 1/4, but the head isn't as wide, i was looking for more of what you went with just having a hard time finding them with a large flange head and nail tip 3/16 or below since most rivet guns except 3/16 or below, any chance you could let us know where you found those puppies. Thanks man

Chris

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 18th, 2009, 10:45 pm
by keoni
it looks great. i did mine kinda the same way by cutting my own to the length i wanted them; and for added weight disbursement and (in my mind) a little extra safety, i have one long bracket across the top of the motherboard. but i dont trust the the hex bolts, so i used sheet metal screws.

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 18th, 2009, 11:46 pm
by kind2311
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irricanian wrote:Isn't the bracket 1/8" x 2" x 2" cut at 2" wide? The one in your first picture looks bigger than 3/4"
That's correct. Not sure where I got 3/4" from?
pchrisbosh1 wrote:Hey Kind your tutorial is awesome!

Question though what size rivets did you use for the assembly? I found some rivets that are 1/4, but the head isn't as wide, i was looking for more of what you went with just having a hard time finding them with a large flange head and nail tip 3/16 or below since most rivet guns except 3/16 or below, any chance you could let us know where you found those puppies. Thanks man

Chris
Thanks Chris :cool:

They are aluminum 3/16" large flange rivets and you wont find them with large flanges in stores like ACE, Lowes, or Home Depot. I got them from a local auto body shop and they had no problem giving me 10 of them, didn't even charge. I did have to buy a rivet gun from ACE though, that was about $10.

here they are on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/16-Large-Flange-R ... B000MPR5WY

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 19th, 2009, 12:10 am
by kind2311
Oh and just in case some are wondering, i used rivets rather than the obvious simple solution of nuts and bolts because of their use on the GB1 Hero Packs:

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Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 19th, 2009, 12:18 am
by Ryusui
Wow, those are some beautiful captures. Mine never come out quite as good. What program are you using?

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 19th, 2009, 12:26 am
by kind2311
it's an HD version of the film in .mkv format and the caps are taken with VLC media player. The DVDs do not come out this clean.

if you right click the image and select "view image", you can see it even clearer.

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 22nd, 2009, 11:56 am
by kind2311
bumping this since i had more than one person ask about how to do this last night in chat.

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 22nd, 2009, 3:37 pm
by jt001
What a great tutorial!!!! Thanks for posting!!!

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 26th, 2009, 9:12 pm
by gbrob
Can someone sticky this or put it in the tutorials? Great stuff here.....

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 26th, 2009, 10:11 pm
by irricanian
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kind2311 wrote:
irricanian wrote:Isn't the bracket 1/8" x 2" x 2" cut at 2" wide? The one in your first picture looks bigger than 3/4"
That's correct. Not sure where I got 3/4" from?
pchrisbosh1 wrote:Hey Kind your tutorial is awesome!

Question though what size rivets did you use for the assembly? I found some rivets that are 1/4, but the head isn't as wide, i was looking for more of what you went with just having a hard time finding them with a large flange head and nail tip 3/16 or below since most rivet guns except 3/16 or below, any chance you could let us know where you found those puppies. Thanks man

Chris
Thanks Chris :cool:

They are aluminum 3/16" large flange rivets and you wont find them with large flanges in stores like ACE, Lowes, or Home Depot. I got them from a local auto body shop and they had no problem giving me 10 of them, didn't even charge. I did have to buy a rivet gun from ACE though, that was about $10.

here they are on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/16-Large-Flange-R ... B000MPR5WY
Great tutorial Vince , I would recommend editing the bracket size (1/8" x 2" x 2" cut at 2" wide) and rivet size (3/16" large flange rivets) and get this tutorial stickied and locked with just your first post showing.

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 12:38 am
by kind2311
Thanks for the comments guys, I'm glad this is helping people to realize this isn't as difficult as some would think. Believe it or not, I'm actually looking forward to doing this step again on my next pack! :D

Colin, thanks for the correction, the changes have been made. When I first wrote this tutorial, it was posted in thor2015's "V71 Mark X Assembly" thread but I then decided to also give it's own thread so as to be sure it wouldn't be missed . . .the same reason I didn't post it in the tutorials section, this forum is the most frequented when looking for this kind of info. Of course the mods can move this or do whatever they wish however, I would like to request that the thread be kept open so as people can ask questions and it can be an open and intelligent discussion.

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 2:53 pm
by irricanian
Agreed, sticky but not locked would be best. Too many tutorial posts tend to get buried and new people can't always find them.

On another note, I mentioned before that i would be offering up mounting kits to go along with my motherboards and I will make them available tomorrow, the aluminum angle is being cut now and I got the rivets and bolts today. I will post a for sale thread and put them on my website. Thanks for doing the tutorial Vince

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 28th, 2009, 8:00 pm
by hooker
Great tutorial indeed! Very well done.

I like the idea of the mounting kit with your mobos Colin. I think people will be all over that.

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 30th, 2009, 4:37 pm
by BradDrakenstein
Excellent tutorial thanks for Posting it
You should do one of how to Mount the motherboard to the Alice frame too
and then maybe Colin could sell a mounting kit for that also

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 30th, 2009, 5:47 pm
by kind2311
Thanks Brad :cool:
A tutorial on that would be helpful to some but it's not really an issue for most. The biggest problems that arise with attaching an ALICE pack frame to the mobo are where to make the 3rd mounting point and what kind of spacers to use.

There were three mounting points where the alice pack was connected to the mobo. The 2 rectangular slots in the bottom (Irricanian's mobos are pre-drilled for these) and a 3rd one that needs to be drilled about 3 inches up from the middle crossmember, right before the vertical support bar begins to curve inward. 1/2" spacers were used between the frame and mobo on all mounting points. The position of the 3rd mounting point can be easily seen here:

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Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 31st, 2009, 1:54 pm
by BradDrakenstein
thanks again
I just got my Motherboard from Multimediamayhem a few days ago
and Hopefully I will have my alice pack frame very soon
this is going to be very useful to know
thanks again for the help It is very much Appreciated

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: May 31st, 2009, 3:20 pm
by Coz_UK
Agreed! A great tutorial! Thanks for that!

Quick question, tho - what is the diameter of the large rivet head? I have some 16mm Dia,but they look a tad small.

Cheers,
Coz.

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: June 2nd, 2009, 5:46 am
by jt001
BradDrakenstein wrote:maybe Colin could sell a mounting kit for that also
He does now! http://www.gbfans.com/community/viewtop ... 76#p124476

Vinny, I decided to mount my shell yesterday using your tutorial. It worked flawlessly and very clean!!! I also posted a few tips on my WIP thread as a "companion" to your guide. I didn't feel I should post them here 'cause don't want to hijack your thread. :)

Thanks a lot for your tutorial! I'm in debt with ya!

jose

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 11:45 am
by GB_J
i came... :crunch:

Re: Attaching motherboard to pack shell w/pics

Posted: June 8th, 2009, 2:33 pm
by elwoodlpool
What about the Twinke ?


But you look like you know about them


And remeber Be KIND........


Elwood