RichardLess wrote:The REAL question is, will the new Dr. Who episodes have a terrible fart joke in it within the first 20 minutes?
Doctor Who doesn't really do fart jokes that much thankfully but yes I still have bad memories when they have done those jokes.
Kingpin wrote:Except they're less likely to consider your point of view if the way you phrase it/go about it only turns them off.
To be fair I have never been the best person when it comes to clarifying myself first time.
Kingpin wrote:Good for them? Though maybe that might say more about you than him/her or me.
Actually it's almost like Simon does double duties. It's quite funny actually.
I guess you should see that as a compliment since he works every hard for the site.
Kingpin wrote:I'm glad it was free of your usual rhetoric. Are you opposed to her because she isn't a good enough actress, or because of your views on social progressiveness of women in the media?
You don't really want me to go into details about that do you? I have over explained myself on DoG but due to the mainly left wing leaning people on there aren't taking in what I say. Some of my reasoning is in the quote I posted in my previous post.
Kingpin wrote:Moffat's one feminist, and one kind of feminist. They aren't all identical.
If he's like Christina Hoff Summers we're okay. If he's another Joss Whedon like Moffat is we have a problem.
Kingpin wrote:So? That doesn't mean he has an actual hatred for me - you're grasping at straws on this point.
A creature that targets men? Yeeaa, suspiciously dodgy.
Kingpin wrote:I think you're overinvesting in your fear without any rational basis. It's all assumptions predetermined on this cartoonish caricature of feminists built up using examples of a handful of very extreme individuals.
Well we've seen what Moffat has done as a feminist and we've seen other examples of shows taking the feminist route so I don't feel I'm overreacting in the slightest here.
Kingpin wrote:Fortunately for the most part it seems things have quietened down. Unfortunately it does just seem that some folks aren't happy that the Doctor is now going to be a woman, even though I think it's great as it gives women and girls another hero to add to their pantheon.
People are quieting down because people like myself who have objected have been shut down by the left wing fans. In fact my own parents have requested for me to not talk about this on social media and just agree with everybody about it. I am not making this up folks. They know I'm correct but because of the forced diversity today people with opposing views are being pounced on by the pro-female Doctor fans. Only one view is allowed and my parents feel I could get into a lot of trouble with the wacked out majority. There's your left wing dictatorship mate!
JurorNo.2 wrote:There are different types of comedy. Spies Like Us has a fart joke, and it's hilarious because of how it's worked into the moment and how the characters react. Does the first Ghostbusters have humor like that? No, and that's fine, that's a different type of humor.
You need a good balance otherwise the film just becomes a complete juvenile mess.
JurorNo.2 wrote:Most people are just thinking, "OK, there's been 12 men, now there's the first woman. Neat, what's the big deal?"
The big deal is that the decision was made by two feminists, both who decided to hire a feminist and the decision was made at a point in time where the left wing are taking over creatively, most of the time for their own selfish gain.
DarkSpectre wrote:If the trend of declining ratings continues then the show gets cancelled. So to me, I'm torn. I want the show to continue but at the same time I'm not interested in what's being presented. It sucks.
I mentioned this elsewhere. I kind of feel the ratings for the first year at least will be terrific but will plummet once the whole female Doctor gimmick grows tiresome.
DarkSpectre wrote: I guess I'm already over "finally girls have someone to look up to" excuse that's used to justify every instance of a well established character getting gender flipped. I'm all for strong female characters, Ripley, Buffy, Janeway, but 2 things: 1. There's a bit of hypocrisy here because if well established female characters were gender swapped, there would be so many people triggered by it and 2. When does it end? When all established male characters are female? The perception of the Doctor Who fandom has now shifted to a sense that Whovians were just ironically being fanatic about the series, cosplaying as the Doctors, gobbling up all the merchandise, while all the same time deep down pining for the Doctor to be a woman? Doesn't make alot of sense. Whovians had no issue with how the Doctor was portrayed until this gender flip and then suddenly its made the show more watchable and if you don't like it you're sexist and need to leave the fandom? It just hits too close to home after the past year is probably why I'm more sensitive to it, I dunno.
Really good points, I totally agree. Ironic that the left wing who consider themselves the most open minded and flexible have been the most ruthless in bullying people. I don't think they deserve a female Doctor if that's what happens when they get what they want.