Re: [SPOILERS] NEW GB MOVIE SUMMER 2020!
Posted: October 19th, 2019, 11:05 am
...or maybe it's buzzwords to let the layman know that it is TOTALLY DIFFERENT than the reboot?
It's a sad state of affairs, that I don't feel I can reasonably share potential excitement about the new film with other 'fans,' because too many fans either won't stop bitching about the reboot, or be realistic with their expectations for the new film.
Let's address something outright: the new film will never be good enough.
I don't just mean to naysayers, I don't just mean to haters. I mean even to ME.
The Ghostbusters III I dreamed of would have happened in the mid-'90s. The chance for a GB3 that fulfills the kind of desires we ALL wanted is long past, and people need to accept that. Even if you were more than happy to see the OGBs being so aged, I don't think anybody's ideal GB3 is missing Egon. With Harold Ramis passed away, the ideal, fanboy's-wet-dream GB3 is now off the table. The writing has been on the wall since 2014.
To a certain subset of the populace, GB2 was so lackluster that NO GB3 would be good enough. Those people can screw off.
Each one of us needs to look deep within ourselves and question how willing we are to settle for less. This is not my declaration that the new film will be bad, don't dare read it as such. But when it comes to the things we all want to see in another GB film as existing fans, there are things that just aren't gonna happen. We're finishing the trilogy without Egon. That's a huge blow. They took too long to make the film (blame Bill), so the original team (the ones who are left) are too old to (a) be the box office draw any studio would want, and (b) be involved in any intense action. Movies are a business. Existing GB fans won't draw enough at the box office to power a film starring three old men to major box office success. You have to court new fans, or any franchise will die off. Pushing new people to take over the franchise was always going to be the direction GB3 went in, regardless of when it was made.
Okay? So we've now established that no possible GB3 made now will ever be what any of us really want, deep down. So what's left?
Potential new characters we can fall in love with. A continuance of the lore and universe we've already fallen in love with. A chance to see the remaining Superstars of the Supernatural, one last time, to meaningfully pass the torch. An exciting and fun time at your local movie theater.
Gee, it looks to me like the new film seems to hold those cards. Will it be a winning hand? We'll have to wait for the thing to actually come out before we know for sure, but I think it's got fair odds.
Bill, Dan and Ernie won't be the stars. Just accept that and move on, like ****ing adults. Now, anyone who thinks that Ivo Shandor's legacy will be a major component of the new film and the OGBs won't be are deluding themselves. Regardless of how much possible screen time Peter, Winston and Ray have, their part is logically going to be fulfilling. There's no reason to directly call back to the first film so deeply as part of the narrative and not have characters that it will resonate with (hint: it ain't gonna be the new kids). Being dismissive of the film series' legacy already bit the reboot in the ass, so that's why what little we've seen is taking the opposite approach.
"We haven't seen the original cast in any of the leaked stuff so they're not in it and this movie will suck hurr durr..." ...as others have said, all we've SEEN is the Ecto-1 driving around. We haven't even seen the NEW cast doing anything. By THAT logic, Paul Rudd and Finn Wolfhard aren't in this movie, either. Given that the whole damn film has been shot inside soundstages, we can't claim ANYTHING yet, so please, for the love of Harold SHUT THE **** UP WITH THE MORONIC DOOM AND GLOOM BULLSHIT.
Sometimes, I don't think this fanbase even deserves another film with how it acts sometimes. I'm ashamed to be included with some of you.
It's a sad state of affairs, that I don't feel I can reasonably share potential excitement about the new film with other 'fans,' because too many fans either won't stop bitching about the reboot, or be realistic with their expectations for the new film.
Let's address something outright: the new film will never be good enough.
I don't just mean to naysayers, I don't just mean to haters. I mean even to ME.
The Ghostbusters III I dreamed of would have happened in the mid-'90s. The chance for a GB3 that fulfills the kind of desires we ALL wanted is long past, and people need to accept that. Even if you were more than happy to see the OGBs being so aged, I don't think anybody's ideal GB3 is missing Egon. With Harold Ramis passed away, the ideal, fanboy's-wet-dream GB3 is now off the table. The writing has been on the wall since 2014.
To a certain subset of the populace, GB2 was so lackluster that NO GB3 would be good enough. Those people can screw off.
Each one of us needs to look deep within ourselves and question how willing we are to settle for less. This is not my declaration that the new film will be bad, don't dare read it as such. But when it comes to the things we all want to see in another GB film as existing fans, there are things that just aren't gonna happen. We're finishing the trilogy without Egon. That's a huge blow. They took too long to make the film (blame Bill), so the original team (the ones who are left) are too old to (a) be the box office draw any studio would want, and (b) be involved in any intense action. Movies are a business. Existing GB fans won't draw enough at the box office to power a film starring three old men to major box office success. You have to court new fans, or any franchise will die off. Pushing new people to take over the franchise was always going to be the direction GB3 went in, regardless of when it was made.
Okay? So we've now established that no possible GB3 made now will ever be what any of us really want, deep down. So what's left?
Potential new characters we can fall in love with. A continuance of the lore and universe we've already fallen in love with. A chance to see the remaining Superstars of the Supernatural, one last time, to meaningfully pass the torch. An exciting and fun time at your local movie theater.
Gee, it looks to me like the new film seems to hold those cards. Will it be a winning hand? We'll have to wait for the thing to actually come out before we know for sure, but I think it's got fair odds.
Bill, Dan and Ernie won't be the stars. Just accept that and move on, like ****ing adults. Now, anyone who thinks that Ivo Shandor's legacy will be a major component of the new film and the OGBs won't be are deluding themselves. Regardless of how much possible screen time Peter, Winston and Ray have, their part is logically going to be fulfilling. There's no reason to directly call back to the first film so deeply as part of the narrative and not have characters that it will resonate with (hint: it ain't gonna be the new kids). Being dismissive of the film series' legacy already bit the reboot in the ass, so that's why what little we've seen is taking the opposite approach.
"We haven't seen the original cast in any of the leaked stuff so they're not in it and this movie will suck hurr durr..." ...as others have said, all we've SEEN is the Ecto-1 driving around. We haven't even seen the NEW cast doing anything. By THAT logic, Paul Rudd and Finn Wolfhard aren't in this movie, either. Given that the whole damn film has been shot inside soundstages, we can't claim ANYTHING yet, so please, for the love of Harold SHUT THE **** UP WITH THE MORONIC DOOM AND GLOOM BULLSHIT.
Sometimes, I don't think this fanbase even deserves another film with how it acts sometimes. I'm ashamed to be included with some of you.