Discuss the upcoming movie to be released in 2020 and directed by Jason Reitman.
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Corey91 wrote: August 1st, 2020, 11:16 pm Hopefully lots of lines and connections! I would love if we saw the fettuccine painting in the back of Egons lab or better yet, in Peters apartment/office.
I never understood the painting joke, thought it was really weird and never understood why it would happen like that.

That being said, I always welcome more nods to GB II!
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pizzarat wrote: August 1st, 2020, 9:39 pm
philmorgan81 wrote: August 1st, 2020, 9:14 pm


I am hoping to see the remains of a Slime Blower or a Giga Meter in Egon's lab somewhere. That would be more than enough of a reference to Ghostbusters 2 for me. Anything else would just be a bonus. ;):):) :)
Could not agree more! All these great memories of watching and loving II when I was 5 are flooding back, like playing out scenes from the movie on our school's dangerous concrete playground. And that ridiculous "jumbo" coloring book. The new movie seems really involved with passing on the Ghostbusters history/mythology, so much, that it only makes sense to reveal something important that links 1984 and 1989.
LOL! I Loved those Jumbo Coloring Books! I still have mine. I don't even care that they couldn't get the likeness rights from the actors and wound up taking away Egon's glasses and giving Ray a Porn Stache. I just enjoy all the little tie ins from Ghostbusters 2 specifically. It was the tie in coloring books that first showed me there was supposed to be a scene where Ray drives the Ecto 1A under Vigo's influence. I also was lucky enough to have a complete set of the Ghostbusters 2 trading cards.


It's funny I hear peoples criticisms of Ghostbusters 2 and I totally know where they are coming from, but it has never stopped me from loving it.

I think it is just going to be great to have another movie to have as great companion piece to an already rich franchise, and yes I am including ATC. Love it or hate it If not for ATCs existence we wouldn't have had such great moments from those characters in the 101 and Crossing Over comics.

Seriously though if the Collection of Spores Molds and Fungus, Proton Pack Parts, Old Uniforms Hanging Up, PKE Meter, Hidden Ghost Trap, or the Instagram picture of Tobin's Spirit Guide are any indication of the kind of things that are in Egon's Lab god knows what other little easter eggs are going to be hidden in this movie. If we're lucky it will take multiple viewings to see them all. Who knows. Again it has been along time since I have been this excited for a movie. I know it will be worth the wait. :):):).
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Officially licensed shirts from Afterlife have begun showing up in Mexico...
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deadderek wrote: August 2nd, 2020, 7:18 am Officially licensed shirts from Afterlife have begun showing up in Mexico...
Pictures please?
philmorgan81 wrote: August 2nd, 2020, 2:15 am I think it is just going to be great to have another movie to have as great companion piece to an already rich franchise, and yes I am including ATC. Love it or hate it If not for ATCs existence we wouldn't have had such great moments from those characters in the 101 and Crossing Over comics.
The only thing I'll say about the reboot is it's failure lead to afterlife being made.
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Bison256 wrote: August 2nd, 2020, 7:59 am
deadderek wrote: August 2nd, 2020, 7:18 am Officially licensed shirts from Afterlife have begun showing up in Mexico...
Pictures please?
philmorgan81 wrote: August 2nd, 2020, 2:15 am I think it is just going to be great to have another movie to have as great companion piece to an already rich franchise, and yes I am including ATC. Love it or hate it If not for ATCs existence we wouldn't have had such great moments from those characters in the 101 and Crossing Over comics.
The only thing I'll say about the reboot is it's failure lead to afterlife being made.
LOL! That's very fair. :):):)
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Anybody else see the video posted showing the upcoming Hasbro Wand? Looks INCREDIBLE!
No mention of the Included adapter, still in the dark as to what it means for the future...



No update yet from Hasbro Pulse on when my order is shipping.
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Ectojeff88 wrote: August 2nd, 2020, 3:24 pm Anybody else see the video posted showing the upcoming Hasbro Wand? Looks INCREDIBLE!
No mention of the Included adapter, still in the dark as to what it means for the future...

https://youtu.be/9pdtRJVsxZE

No update yet from Hasbro Pulse on when my order is shipping.
This is the adapter. It's just a 2nd end piece with a connector for a loom.
https://www.facebook.com/GoMan8/photos/ ... 20/?type=3
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Ectojeff88 wrote: August 2nd, 2020, 3:24 pm Anybody else see the video posted showing the upcoming Hasbro Wand?
Yes it was posted one page prior to this one.
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Alphagaia wrote: August 2nd, 2020, 12:28 am
Corey91 wrote: August 1st, 2020, 11:16 pm Hopefully lots of lines and connections! I would love if we saw the fettuccine painting in the back of Egons lab or better yet, in Peters apartment/office.
I never understood the painting joke, thought it was really weird and never understood why it would happen like that.

That being said, I always welcome more nods to GB II!
It’s such a weak joke to end the movie on too. It’s like “...wait. What am I looking at? Oh it’s the..” and the ghostbusters theme kicks in. It’s so odd. It doesn’t work as a joke, as a plot point or as an ending. Like..was that suppose to be the original painting underneath the Vigo painting? And it just happens to be the Ghostbusters? Or a previous version of them? Is it a joke about the end of “the shining”? It’s so awkward.

I’ve explained the idea like this, even though it’s totally not what Reitman & Company intended: Thru some sort of magic, either by Vigo or by a more primitive 1500’s era Ghostbusters, the canvas sucks in whatever energy happens to be nearest to it. So when Vigo “died” the canvas attracted his negative energy/spirit(Almost like a primitive magic based Ghost Trap) and that Negative energy manifested as a picture of the tyrant himself looking all evil and mean . When Vigo is destroyed at the end, the canvas is now empty and full of positive slime from the slime blowers, and so the canvas, acting again as a sort of energy ghost trap, sucks in the positive energy from all those present in the room, sans Janosz because he was a bad guy, and it manifests as the painting we see. That’s my head canon for how it works.


I have a theory that so many of the poor reviews for GB2 are due to it’s weak climax and ending. I love GB2. The first 2/3rds are terrific. I truly believe it’s the one of the most underrated comedies in existence. But the climax is so “meh” and the movie ends on this really awkward joke that doesn’t make sense and isn’t funny. So that’s what people take home with them because the end is the most fresh moment in their mind. They literally end the movie with the single worst joke in the entire film. That’s not how you want to leave the audience.
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For once, we are almost completely agreeing!

Except that I didn't find the first 2/3 terrific. I absolutely loved the middle part, starting with the Scoleri Brothers and ending with Louis becoming a GB (it added nothing to the story), but not the first part. The jokes were funny, even in the first half, but the story made no sense to me.

(I already explained why before, but just in case, here is a short summary: I just didn't like the soft reset the story got by erasing RGB and disbanding the GB brand as if they were frauds by claiming ghosts didn't exist when there were even film crews present for Stay Puft.)

Together with a weak ending that made no real sense and ended with a few weak jokes (for me Tully missed as well) it really felt like a mixed bag. There still are some great moments in the movie and the court scene and Vigo are stand outs, but I agree the weird ending together with some questionable story beats at the start (and my god, Janine) gave it a series vibe that probably turned the casual movie goer of, especially with so many good other stuff in the cinema's that did hit all of their marks.
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Alphagaia wrote: August 3rd, 2020, 1:29 am For once, we are almost completely agreeing!

Except that I didn't find the first 2/3 terrific. I absolutely loved the middle part, starting with the Scoleri Brothers and ending with Louis becoming a GB (it added nothing to the story), but not the first part. The jokes were funny, even in the first half, but the story made no sense to me.

(I already explained why before, but just in case, here is a short summary: I just didn't like the soft reset the story got by erasing RGB and disbanding the GB brand as if they were frauds by claiming ghosts didn't exist when there were even film crews present for Stay Puft.)

Together with a weak ending that made no real sense and ended with a few weak jokes (for me Tully missed as well) it really felt like a mixed bag. There still are some great moments in the movie and the court scene and Vigo are stand outs, but I agree the weird ending together with some questionable story beats at the start (and my god, Janine) gave it a series vibe that probably turned the casual movie goer of, especially with so many good other stuff in the cinema's that did hit all of their marks.
Yeah. They had such an easy way out of the “why doesn’t everyone believe in Ghosts now” story and it’s...Ghosts don’t show up on film. Why they didn’t do that I’ll never know. BUT

Here’s how I head canon that. So everyone knows the Statue of Liberty disappeared, right? Seriously. It was even caught on film. Infact millions of people watched it happen on TV. Also...look at all the evidence we have of flying saucers and yet how many people believe?

Now back to the Statue of Liberty. Many of you are wondering “what is this guy talking about? Is Richardless high?”. But it’s true. A man, a very famous man, made the Statue of Liberty disappear and you can even go see it happen on YouTube. It’s from the mid 1980s I think.
Now is all that the same as seeing a walking marshmallow man? No. But you get the idea. Now obviously the Statue of Liberty didn’t *really* disappear(or did it?). But I can believe there are people who would believe in what they saw and others who would doubt it. It’s the same with Mr. Stay Puft.

But again. It would’ve been so much easier had they just done a simple line of exposition like “Yeah it’s too bad corporeal spirits don’t appear on nitrate film stock due to the psychomagnatheric emulsion phasing in and out at a rate that a 24 frame per second camera cant pick up” or something to that affect.
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I think a highly controlled magician trick versus multiple camera crews from different news networks, together with the montage and ghost outbreak, the army helping the GB plus the massive stay puft goo clean up and (other aftermath) doesn't really compare. It's a completely different scale. There will always be doubters ofcourse, especially when time marches on. But 5 years after a huge ghost outbreak? With at least Slimer still roaming around? Did all the other ghost just leave as well? But why does Slimer not leave then? So many unanswered questions.

We can probably headcanon it away, but the movie sure didn't explain it.
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^Yeah, wish a couple more GB2 drafts would pop up so we see the evolution of some of these scenes that don't really get explained in the final movie. There's gotta be some clues in the drafts.
RichardLess wrote: August 3rd, 2020, 12:50 am Like..was that suppose to be the original painting underneath the Vigo painting? And it just happens to be the Ghostbusters? Or a previous version of them? Is it a joke about the end of “the shining”? It’s so awkward.
I always liked the idea that centuries ago there was this painter, with no clue he was clairvoyant, had a vision of 4 men rescuing an infant so he painted it thinking it a stroke a genius perhaps bequeathed to him from angels watching over him. Vigo's army ransacks other countries. They bring back some art among other things they stole. He sees this one the painter did and decides to commission a painter to paint his portrait over it. Then it was just some big cosmic coincidence that the painting Vigo chose was of one moment's after his future defeat in the 20th century. The painter had the last laugh.

Always wondered if anyone in the crew talked about the genesis of that painting at the end.
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By the way, ghosts not appearing on film is kinda reconned by Afterlife, right?

I mean, The ecto goggles upgrade allowed them to make pictures.

Now that I think of it, in GB II they have made pictures of Vigo as well, which start to burn when developed. They should have used that angle!
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Coover5 wrote: August 3rd, 2020, 5:16 am EDITED:

This comment was just a bunch of conjecture about the vigo painting but i don't want to add to this being so off topic so i deleted it. feel free to remove this comment.
Come on. Unedit that shit. I love me some Vigo painting theories. Nothing else is really going on. Lay it on me. Post it here or message me. I wanna read that.
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Alphagaia wrote: August 3rd, 2020, 5:00 am By the way, ghosts not appearing on film is kinda reconned by Afterlife, right?

I mean, The ecto goggles upgrade allowed them to make pictures.

Now that I think of it, in GB II they have made pictures of Vigo as well, which start to burn when developed. They should have used that angle!
Hmmm. Very true. But here’s the thing. If you use my explanation, pictures are possible but film isn’t(not that I thought of that at the time I just realized “oh shit you’re right how can I explain this like I knew what I was talking about”lol ). But pictures are way easier to discount because people are always like “oh it’s doctored” films tho? Much, much harder, especially in the 1980s. So you could say the “24 frames per second and blah blah pseudo science”.

Now if we take only what we see in the movie, the only time a camera is present is during Mr. Stay Puft, right? I think the government and skeptics could explain it away like “oh it’s a parade float” now the people that were actually there? They know it’s for real. But again weird things happen all the time that get mass witnesses and still people aren’t believing in ghosts and goblins.

Ultimately it’s a big problem with the sequel. But honestly? I have to say. I love that they aren’t going round busting ghosts all the time. I love the scenes of just the guys investigating, hanging out. Had they just gone with GB2 as like a Real Ghostbusters style movie, I’m sure the kid in me would’ve loved that. But the film fan and story lover just loves when these guys aren’t heroes 24/7. The government put them out of business. They saved the world...and no one cares. That’s interesting to me.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, they told the right story, but did it the wrong way. Or maybe...not the most ideal way. I like that they have to start from scratch. That they disband and are doing birthday parties and cheap public access tv shows. One of the story beats from an unused draft that I wished they could’ve worked in was Peter is the one who has to get the band back together.
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I can understand they have to start from scratch with ghosts activity dying down. That's actually fine with me, if they want to do that storyline.

I cannot understand people just thinking it was all fake.
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mrmichaelt wrote: August 3rd, 2020, 7:28 am
Alphagaia wrote:I can understand they have to start from scratch with ghosts activity dying down. That's actually fine with me, if they want to do that storyline.

I cannot understand people just thinking it was all fake.
Maybe Peck leaked his report to the press and caused a scandal.
But the press was present during the whole affair?

They probably even got shots from Peck getting covered in goo.
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Alphagaia wrote: August 3rd, 2020, 8:08 am
mrmichaelt wrote: August 3rd, 2020, 7:28 am Maybe Peck leaked his report to the press and caused a scandal.
But the press was present during the whole affair?

They probably even got shots from Peck getting covered in goo.
I was just thinking about this. So who besides The Judge and Hardmeyer do we see outright saying ghosts aren’t real though? I guess there’s Jason Reitman’s character. But that’s kinda it. Is that right?It’s been 5 years since Gozer. The government shut them down(which let’s be honest, probably the right move lol). We only see a couple people outright call them frauds. One of them is a clearly a psychotic judge. Then we’ve got a douche politician...and a kid. When you think about it like that, I’m not sure it’s that big of an issue is it?

Until I thought about it just now, I use to think “Yeah why doesn’t everyone believe?” But really when you sit and think about I’m not so sure most people don’t believe(putting aside the new film and whatever happens there).
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We also got the construction workers being convinced the GB put the river of slime there, feeding into the narrative they are considered frauds.

Plus the psychiatrist seems convinced they are loony because they are talking about ghosts.

And ofcourse the kids (and at least one dad) hating them.

It's way to convenient they would just stumble across the few people (in high places) not believing in ghosts, especially after what happened was so big.

I feel that if there was doubt in the press, it would have happened in the first movie, but they all treated them like a serious phenomenon.

A news radio even casually stayed the poltergeist while finishing on the noteworthy thing they were dansing the night away with some girls.
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