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By mrmichaelt
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Mrmichaelt, thanks for jogging my memory. I somehow also tied the Stay-Puft theory into the opening (and the test footage, which I partially bagged off a cable airing onto VHS before the RGB series came out). I don't recall exactly, but I do remember using that image of a large SPMM being sucked into a trap when I would imagine the non-Gozer scenario.
You're welcome, Alex! I was always curious on what was decided on Stay Puft in the RGB bible, as well. Because they used multiple traps in "Cry Uncle" but in "Sticky Business" I think it was, one trap was used but those were two uniquely different situations - the heat of battle and extraction from the Containment Unit. We saw that tiny compressed Stay Puft when he was let out in "Cry Uncle" probably due to the P.K.E. dampening effects of the ECU, so it was probably possible to trap Stay Puft in that state with one. But full tilt Stay Puft on a rampage, you need a couple and some strategy.
After all, even Ray Stantz knew there was no way to trap Gozer. Watch for a very telling little detail in the movie right after Venkman says 'this chick is toast'... Ray sets down the ghost trap, knowing it will be of no purpose in this battle.
True, but to be fair - it was their first encounter with a god. They didn't know what to do. They only had basic equipment. But since then, it's been proven if you discorporate Gozer's Destructor Form - most of its essence can be then be trapped like a ghost to prevent reformation albeit a more powerful trap is required.
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By BoondockRev
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I always wondered the same thing as a kid about why Stay Puft (the destructor form of Gozer) would turn-coat and HELP the RGBs in Murray the Mantis? They couldn't trap a god, Ray even leaves the trap behind in the movie. Then as I'm reading your guys' thread I realize something- in this continuity not only can they trap Stay Puft- they do it every single episode in the intro. If the intro is the real time they battle Stay Puft, it's a possibility Stay Puft is not the Destructor form of Gozer in RGB but another entity.

All that being said Have you ever noticed in "Drool the Dog-Faced Goblin" at 8:36 Ray is either speaking in tongues or doing an impression of someone:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3olrnm (8:36)
I can get "Okay boss, I'll-a-bite...hominy grits a you think-a we see."
I was only a wee lad when I heard it, but I still don't get the reference if he's impersonating someone. It also doesn't help I have no idea what hominy grits are (assuming they have to do with grits and gravy)- but then why did the entity cause them to drop from the sky first blue, then golden?
By Ryusui
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All that being said Have you ever noticed in "Drool the Dog-Faced Goblin" at 8:36 Ray is either speaking in tongues or doing an impression of someone:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3olrnm (8:36)
I can get "Okay boss, I'll-a-bite...hominy grits a you think-a we see."
I was only a wee lad when I heard it, but I still don't get the reference if he's impersonating someone. It also doesn't help I have no idea what hominy grits are (assuming they have to do with grits and gravy)- but then why did the entity cause them to drop from the sky first blue, then golden?
I believe it's a Marx Brothers reference. And the blue was diamonds, I suppose. Then it changed into grits.
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By ghoulishfright
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Ever notice the similarities between the Real Ghostbusters episode "Flip Side" and the 1988 horror-comedy cult classic Killer Klowns from Outer Space?...

One: the exaggerated, misshapen designs of the Peoplebusters are vaguely reminiscent of the Killer Klowns.

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(Note Ghost-Egon's pear shaped body.)

Two: the Peoplebusters' blasters are quite similar to the Killer Klowns' blasters. Especially the manner in which they are gripped.

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Three: In both cases, the blasters encase their target in a type of "cocoon." Cotton candy cocoons in Killer Klowns, and slime cocoons in "Flip Side."

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Four: Both have tank-like vehicles (with a broadly sloping shape).

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Five: Both have scenes where the characters "parade" down a major city street with the cocoons in tow.

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Also, the Killer Klown blasters are very reminiscent of the Ghostbusters' proton streams…

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And the Killer Klowns' industrial storage facility is not entirely unlike the Peoplebusters' containment unit.

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Finally, Killer Klowns from Outer Space was released on May 27, 1988, and "Flip Side" was released four months later on September 17, 1988. I'm not sure what the turn around was on Real Ghostbusters episodes, but four months seems like plenty of time for the writers and/or animators to have seen Killer Klowns and taken elements from it for "Flip Side".

Furthermore, this would not be the last connection between Ghostbusters and Killer Klowns from Outer Space, as the Extreme Ghostbusters episode "Killjoys" is rather blatantly influenced by Killer Klowns

One: the clown designs.

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Two: the set design.

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Three: the killer "Jack-in-the-Box" clowns.

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I rest my case.
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By Winston1986
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Anyone ever notice in Adventures in Slime and Space that Ray acts like Howard the Duck is an actual real person who can run for president? That is weird. But then again the 3 stooges appear in this episode.
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By Alex Newborn
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Ever notice the similarities between the Real Ghostbusters episode "Flip Side" and the 1988 horror-comedy cult classic Killer Klowns from Outer Space?...

I rest my case.
On a side note, the Pepper's Ghost animatronics for the Universal Studios Florida Ghostbusters Spooktacular attraction were sculpted by the same Chiodo Bros. responsible for Killer Klowns.

https://bloody-disgusting.com/editorial ... ular-life/

Of particular note is the jack-in-the-box clown seen at upper right of this collage.

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Alex
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By ghoulishfright
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On a side note, the Pepper's Ghost animatronics for the Universal Studios Florida Ghostbusters Spooktacular attraction were sculpted by the same Chiodo Bros. responsible for Killer Klowns.

Alex
Whoa, nice catch, that's awesome! I had no idea the Chiodo Brothers worked on the Ghostbusters Spooktacular. It would be so cool if, as the article suggests, they directed a Ghostbusters movie, or at least designed some more ghosts for one. Their style is a perfect match for Ghostbusters.
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By ghoulishfright
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Just noticed this reference to the first movie in the episode VICTOR THE HAPPY GHOST. Winston hails a taxi cab, and Victor looks awfully similar to the zombie taxi driver as seen during the Mick Smiley "Magic" montage...

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By Winston1986
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Just noticed this reference to the first movie in the episode VICTOR THE HAPPY GHOST. Winston hails a taxi cab, and Victor looks awfully similar to the zombie taxi driver as seen during the Mick Smiley "Magic" montage...

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That's a good catch. Hadn't thought of that. By the way I always assumed in the movie that the man who was in that cab died when it crashed in the next scene. That's pretty sad.
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By robbritton
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Just noticed this reference to the first movie in the episode VICTOR THE HAPPY GHOST. Winston hails a taxi cab, and Victor looks awfully similar to the zombie taxi driver as seen during the Mick Smiley "Magic" montage...

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That's a good catch. Hadn't thought of that. By the way I always assumed in the movie that the man who was in that cab died when it crashed in the next scene. That's pretty sad.
Wasn't it in one of the drafts that he arrives at his destination without even noticing the erratic driving or the ghoul at the wheel?
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By Alex Newborn
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Wasn't it in one of the drafts that he arrives at his destination without even noticing the erratic driving or the ghoul at the wheel?


It's in three!

The August, September and October '83 drafts all contain a second 'callback' scene later in the montage, immediately preceding the deleted '3D movie house' scene, where the businessman is still unaware anything paranormal is occurring.

Here's the wording from the August draft. The other two are virtually identical.


"EXT. STREET

The cab driven by the corpse weaves through traffic at breakneck speed. Cars are forced up on the curb. Pedestrians run for safety.

INT. THE BACK SEAT

The Businessman is reading the Wall Street Journal, oblivious to the whole situation."

https://www.theraffon.net/~spookcentral/gb1_script.htm

Alex
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By ghoulishfright
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Haha, that's hilarious! Wish we coulda seen that. Today it'd be some zombie Uber driver and a clueless yuppie on their smartphone. There's something rather Jacques Tati-esque about the social commentary in that and the 3-D horror show scene. Just when I thought I couldn't appreciate the movie any more...
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By Peter Venkman Jr.
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@ghostengineer: Egon also wears the Ghost Trap on his pistol belt twice, once in " Short Stuff" when all four Ghostbusters bail out of Ecto 1 since it was taken over by one of the bounty hunters sent by the Ghost Master and again in "Ghost World" when he goes to the amusement park. Mrs. Spengler then takes it off his belt and uses it when Egon is dealing with the ghost controlling Janine. I think that might be more examples of this, but I can not recall any at the moment. This a good catch, its certainly one detail that I have overlooked even since I got a copy of The Real Ghostbusters on DVD from Time Life.
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By ghostengineer
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Thanks Venkman Jr. I was never a fan of the later seasons for obvious reasons and Short stuff is one of those episodes I never watched again. I believe this season came out about the same time as GB2 which could be why they went with hanging the trap from the belt ? Personally, I don't think it looks right for RGB but hey, if you decide to cosplay that, now you have an excuse to.
By Peter Venkman Jr.
#4937121
@ghostengineer: Short Stuff is from season four (1988) one year before Ghostbusters II came out in theaters. 1988 was also when Kenner released the Ghost Trap roleplaying toy which had a pull out belt clip to hang the trap on your belt. I am guessing this is wear the animators got the idea for the Ghostbusters to do this from.
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By Winston1986
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Wasn't it in one of the drafts that he arrives at his destination without even noticing the erratic driving or the ghoul at the wheel?


It's in three!

The August, September and October '83 drafts all contain a second 'callback' scene later in the montage, immediately preceding the deleted '3D movie house' scene, where the businessman is still unaware anything paranormal is occurring.

Here's the wording from the August draft. The other two are virtually identical.


"EXT. STREET

The cab driven by the corpse weaves through traffic at breakneck speed. Cars are forced up on the curb. Pedestrians run for safety.

INT. THE BACK SEAT

The Businessman is reading the Wall Street Journal, oblivious to the whole situation."

https://www.theraffon.net/~spookcentral/gb1_script.htm

Alex
Don't take this the wrong way but in the finished film we see the guy get in the cab with the ghoul driver and then it shows the taxi crash into some trashcans making it seem the passenger is hurt or killed.
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By mrmichaelt
#4937422
Don't take this the wrong way but in the finished film we see the guy get in the cab with the ghoul driver and then it shows the taxi crash into some trashcans making it seem the passenger is hurt or killed.
The taxi does not crash. It is a car that swerves out of its way that then crashes into the trash cans and three skinny trees.
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By Alex Newborn
#4937522
The taxi does not crash. It is a car that swerves out of its way that then crashes into the trash cans and three skinny trees.

Just for due diligence, I also checked my copies of the multiple takes/angles of this stunt which Sony once had available for purchase as 'stock footage'.

(More on that here...
https://www.theraffon.net/~spookcentral/gb1_stock.htm )

From a different angle, the oncoming car doesn't even touch the trees, it brakes before coming into contact with them.

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This frame is from the very end of that clip, after the loose hubcap has rolled off the sidewalk and fallen flat. You can see it in the middle of the frame, above the Y in the word SONY in the watermark.

So, in rapid order the driver sees the taxi going the wrong way down a one-way street, swerves, jumps the curb, hits garbage cans which don't stop his forward motion, and brakes to a stop before touching the trees.

I don't see it as fatal or even particularly injurious.

Alex
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By Winston1986
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The taxi does not crash. It is a car that swerves out of its way that then crashes into the trash cans and three skinny trees.

Just for due diligence, I also checked my copies of the multiple takes/angles of this stunt which Sony once had available for purchase as 'stock footage'.

(More on that here...
https://www.theraffon.net/~spookcentral/gb1_stock.htm )

From a different angle, the oncoming car doesn't even touch the trees, it brakes before coming into contact with them.

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This frame is from the very end of that clip, after the loose hubcap has rolled off the sidewalk and fallen flat. You can see it in the middle of the frame, above the Y in the word SONY in the watermark.

So, in rapid order the driver sees the taxi going the wrong way down a one-way street, swerves, jumps the curb, hits garbage cans which don't stop his forward motion, and brakes to a stop before touching the trees.

I don't see it as fatal or even particularly injurious.

Alex
I somehow forgot it waa another car that crashed into the trashcans.

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