[Marty120704]

kingpin that would be great to have those photos. I'm almost done with the first floor but it would be nice to have some extra photos that I could reference back to the model and make appropriate changes. Thanks in advance!

[Kingpin]

Insane. Absolutely insane.

If memory serves, the windows at the back were a mismatch of two sash-sized windows of equal size, and one big rectangular one that dominated the whole of the back wall of one floor. There's even a door on the ground floor at the back if I remember correctly.

How will you be rendering the small iron fencing that's in front of the front window on the second floor?

Trivia: If you look closely, you can see where iron bars used to be fitted into the sand-coloured stonework across the station windows.

[Ramjet]

I have no clear images of the rail, so what I make up will be best guess from the material available.

I think what we have now will be enough and provide plenty of detail for a 1:50 scale model. That works out to be almost 18" long.

[rockstar232007]

I found this a couple years ago, this pic was takin in 1912, probably right after the firehouse was built, I would have posted sooner, but I just found the CD that it was on.

[Kingpin]

kingpin that would be great to have those photos. I'm almost done with the first floor but it would be nice to have some extra photos that I could reference back to the model and make appropriate changes. Thanks in advance!

Give me a few days to make sure they're all JPGs and arranged in some kind of order (I'll try make a set of folders for each room that I currently have photos of, and include a chart in each folder as to where the room is in correspondence with the building's layout)... a lot of them are from various parties that were held at the station, and some of the areas may not seem familiar as they never appeared on screen.

[Marty120704]

Sounds great Kingpin. I think I'll wait on doing the rest of the floors til I get the photos and can study them more. I'd like to get alot of the work done this weekend and early next week cause I start my firefighter/paramedic class the week after and that will take up alot of my time.

[Ramjet]

This may be the last bit of work I do for a couple of days.

this model will be made available as a dimensioned A2 sized PDF at 1:50 scale when I'm done.
Even if you don't build a firehouse, it would make a great poster.

AJ - May I have permission to put the Ghostbusters Fans logo on the blueprint?

[Marty120704]

here is an update on the first floor, I'd like to get my hands on a copy of Solid Works and make all the floors with that program, I think It would make it more realistic then then the cartoonish look with Google Sketch Up

[AJ Quick]

Do it!

You guys are amazing.

Thank you for finally finding a picture of the Hook and Ladder when it was once a 2 bay Firehouse.. I've always wanted to see that!

[Ramjet]

I'd no idea this could become obsessive!

Marty - I watched GB with my daughter tonight and the back wall of Vinkman's office looks to be about 2 to 3 metres/yards off the back door (which appears to have the same arched opening as the front door)

As you look at the back wall you see the glass panel door that leads to the basement stairs.

I've taken some quick sketches of the layout and will prepare some solid models of the support poles and stair detail.
(I just noticed the wooden bannister with the iron strap stiles.

Latest incarnation of the firestation blueprint here. It is just the front view, but before I go too much further, please tell me if you would find this format easy to follow.

[Kingpin]

I'd no idea this could become obsessive!

I've been trying to get a set of floorplans made for over four years. The Firehouse makes you inecredibly obsessive.

As you look at the back wall you see the glass panel door that leads to the basement stairs.

Actually the glass paneled door doesn't lead anywhere but the area behind Venkman's office, the steps to the basement are underneath the main staircase in the engine bay.


The front elevation looks good, although that tan coloured bit right at the top of the station looks too tall in comparison to the photos of the real thing.


I know you said you wouldn't need the fence, but should it come up again, here's a great detail shot:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/2656782981/

The base and the top section are mirror images of each other, so all you have to do is flip it vertically.

[Ramjet]

Once again, I thank you for making my job easier. The only photo I had showed the reflection in the window behind, which complicated the rail.

That top piece was the one part I didn't measure before I put in, so I will adjust the height of it accordingly.

Did you say you had images or diagrams of the internal layout of the Ladder 8 station? I'd be happy to share CAD files with you to see if we can get this project finished inside and out early this year.

[GhostGuy]

Now let's see it in black.

[Spengler28]

ZOMG that is friking awsome, unbelivable art!

[Ramjet]

High praise indeed, Spengler28.

Hre is a render I set before I went to bed this morning (Yes, this morning) that shows the Hook & Ladder 8 text as relief, and the start of the decorative rail. I may have to make parts of the rail thicker - it will be trial and error for a while.

The windows have been placed in front as well.

[Kingpin]

More awesome work, Ramjet.

Did you say you had images or diagrams of the internal layout of the Ladder 8 station? I'd be happy to share CAD files with you to see if we can get this project finished inside and out early this year.

Sadly I don't, I have the odd photograph of H&L 8's engine bay, but that's about it.

A floorplan appeared to be shown in Secrets of New York when they showed a 3D-model of the station, but I have no idea if it is accurate.


My interior reference material is strictly limited to the Los Angeles station.

[Ramjet]

Now with the original front door arrangement.

[Kingpin]

If you're specifically basing the doors on the movie ones, the windows are split into three rows instead of two.

[Ramjet]

It was more to test the constant lighting material on the back of the door panels to give the impression of being illuminated from the inside, but I should have made sure I used the correct number of panels, as you rightly point out!

I love the way many keen eyes are right onto anything not quite right.

[Kingpin]

Heh, it's alright, and sorry if I came off a little strong. I rewrote it a few times but couldn't seem to shake that vibe.

Maybe I should've added a smiley.


I noticed on the model with the barn doors, that the windows on the front have vanished, are you redoing them?



Looking at that model they made now, I think I can see one of the firepole portals on the second floor... it suggests to me they had a set of blueprints that were at least accurate to after the station had been modified (that's the slight problem which might be met if we're able to see anything from the DOB, is that they're pre-modification plans).

Something I suggested the last time Secrets of New York came up, but was never followed through is maybe someone send them a email and see if they can get a copy of those plans used in the render from them.

Wouldn't hurt.

[Ramjet]

Don't sweat it, Kingpin, you can't upset me with a big stick.

I'm trying to do this between spending time with my children and a few other things school holidays require, so I'm bound to mess up on things. I truly appreciate your feedback, so no offense ever taken.

The vanishing windows seem to be a peculiarity of producing a second configuration of the one file - I can switch between a version with the roller door and the barn door now as required.

[Kingpin]

Good to hear the work hasn't been lost.

Are you planning to add other bits, like the lights around the arch and the "roundel" (for the lack of a better term) with the scrollwork above the doors which, once upon a time, carried the station's number?

[Ramjet]

I do intend to add the lights, and a much simplified version of the shield or roundel at the top of the arch.

I'd now like to do a version of the ground floor interior - and studied the movie to check the wall details, roof supports and the sets of dome lights hanging from the ceiling. I've made some sketches, so I guess I'd better start coming up with the goods.

Any internal photos your have of the HL 8 building you could share would be greatly appreciated.

[Kingpin]

I would be greatly interested in seeing your sketches. You might in fact be able to offer me a viewpoint I've currently lacking in my own studies of the interior of Firestation 23 (you've definitely got a greater feel for architectural layout).

The fact you have a program that lets you render in 3D is doubly helpful.

Once again, flickr delivers:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tophat/2050600197/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aabriggs/519912629/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7186653@N02/2149867978/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/paypaul/1363117357/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicolaitan/9145017/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/malusbrutus/2638546022/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnpignta/1263161475/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickolas66/2727379433/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/freak_out/19415999/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/seno/444222369/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/overshadowed/396445843/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinkertonr ... 443071038/


And from my personal collection, when I visted it back in '06:





Sadly it's all ground floor/engine bay stuff. I haven't yet seen any photographs taken on the upper levels, with the possible exception of a couple of publicity shots for the first film.

On the red dispatch office you can just see the photograph that was posted in this very topic, of the station and it's crew prior to the downsizing.

[Ramjet]

Thanks Kingpin

I'll see what I can come up with. I was able to clean up the very dark photo of the interior you posted a link to.

[Ramjet]

I have made a start on a stylised interior.

After watching the movie, I've come to the conclusion we're not going to get an accurate copy, so I've come to the conclusion that with the keen eyes around here, what we end up with will be very close.

Let me know your conclusions about these green support posts.

[Ramjet]

[Ramjet]

[rockstar232007]

If you're specifically basing the doors on the movie ones, the windows are split into three rows instead of two.

And, they should be moved closer to the front, also shouldn't they also be brown? just a couple of suggestions.

[Ramjet]

If you're specifically basing the doors on the movie ones, the windows are split into three rows instead of two.

And, they should be moved closer to the front, also shouldn't they also be brown? just a couple of suggestions.

You can't put them closer to the front without them impeding the footpath when they're open.

Do they open in or out?

As for brown, I'm happy with any colour.